Monday, July 30, 2007
Good News from Iraq
No, not the 1-0 soccer defeat of local powerhouse Saudi Arabia, but the fact that two left of center Brookings types have an op-ed in the New York Times which sees (at last) the actual progress that is occurring in Iraq. The title: A War We Just Might Win. I will remind die hard Democrat defeatists who doubt the news and opinions of Mr. O'Hanlon and Mr. Pollack (big time Bush critics) that our source was the New York Times. Money quote:
Here is the most important thing Americans need to understand: We are finally getting somewhere in Iraq, at least in military terms. As two analysts who have harshly criticized the Bush administration’s miserable handling of Iraq, we were surprised by the gains we saw and the potential to produce not necessarily “victory” but a sustainable stability that both we and the Iraqis could live with.
Here is the most important thing Americans need to understand: We are finally getting somewhere in Iraq, at least in military terms. As two analysts who have harshly criticized the Bush administration’s miserable handling of Iraq, we were surprised by the gains we saw and the potential to produce not necessarily “victory” but a sustainable stability that both we and the Iraqis could live with.
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# posted by Roger Fraley @ 7:30 AM 
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So this must be some plot designed to undermine the administration later since, as this blog has consistently argued, the New York Times is nothing but a liberal, defeatist, anti-Bush publication guilty of treason.
Right?
Or are you now arguing that it is "fair and balanced" to some degree?
Right?
Or are you now arguing that it is "fair and balanced" to some degree?
What el Presidente said. It would be idiotic to try to sell defeat of the new surge tactics if in fact they are working. It would make as much sense as 49 stories in a row about the evil of not letting women join a private club.
"I want America to go out. Today, tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, but out. I wish the American people didn't invade Iraq and, hopefully, it will be over soon."
Younis Mahmoud, the captain of the Iraqi soccer team, , the man who scored the winning goal in the Asia Cup on Sunday.
Younis Mahmoud, the captain of the Iraqi soccer team, , the man who scored the winning goal in the Asia Cup on Sunday.
# posted by 
: 6:27 PM
: 6:27 PM
yes, and we should always listen to athletes. They are always so insightful.
Younis must be one of the few soccer players not tortured by Sadaam's boys back in the glory days of Iraq soccer.
Younis must be one of the few soccer players not tortured by Sadaam's boys back in the glory days of Iraq soccer.
# posted by : 10:48 PM
: 10:48 PM
"Younis must be one of the few soccer players not tortured by Sadaam's boys back in the glory days of Iraq soccer. "
Yeah, now Iraqi's just end up getting killed without being tortured. (which is why the soccer team will not be returning to Iraq-too dangerous.) So I guess thats an improvement.
Yeah, now Iraqi's just end up getting killed without being tortured. (which is why the soccer team will not be returning to Iraq-too dangerous.) So I guess thats an improvement.
# posted by : 1:23 AM
: 1:23 AM
Thanks Peter b for finding a positive Iraqi spokesman. Pele continues to support our efforts against Islamic nazis. I'm not sure the guy was on the team that was 'punished' for its lack of success by Uday. Had he been, he might have a slightly different view. NYT reporter John Burns' story on the soccer torture is at http://www.iraqfoundation.org/news/2003/emay/6_sports.html
Rog,
What is your take on how many Iraqis want us there as opposed to how many want us out?
Admiral Mullens will testify today b/f Congress and will say to think about our presence in Iraq in terms of years.
There was an interesting article last Sunday's NYT News of the Week in Review about the challenges of w/drawal.
My understanding is that if we decided to leasve today, it would require 10-13 mos at minimum to w/draw, depending on how much equipment we choose to leave behind.
T
What is your take on how many Iraqis want us there as opposed to how many want us out?
Admiral Mullens will testify today b/f Congress and will say to think about our presence in Iraq in terms of years.
There was an interesting article last Sunday's NYT News of the Week in Review about the challenges of w/drawal.
My understanding is that if we decided to leasve today, it would require 10-13 mos at minimum to w/draw, depending on how much equipment we choose to leave behind.
T
# posted by : 9:38 AM
: 9:38 AM
Roger, do you have a cite for the Pele statement. I've always found him to be an intelligent cosmopolitan human being. I'd be interested to hear what he has to say.
# posted by : 4:12 PM
: 4:12 PM
Tony. I think almost all the Iraqis want us to leave--eventually. Most of the Sunnis want us to stay a while yet. The Kurds love us--stay as long as you want. The Shi'ites are split and I can't really put numbers on it. It might be has high as 40% of the Shi'ites want us out soonest.
Peter b, I was just kidding about Pele, as if the opinion of a single sports star means anything. The one time I saw Pele play live, he got in a fight and won. So he's not absolutely averse to self defense.
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Peter b, I was just kidding about Pele, as if the opinion of a single sports star means anything. The one time I saw Pele play live, he got in a fight and won. So he's not absolutely averse to self defense.
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