Saturday, November 26, 2005

 

When Did the Canadians Go All Looney?

In the past, I have made fun of the Canadian armed forces because they are absurdly small for such a large country. Clearly the Canadians have hitched a free ride on the sacrifice of the American people to have barely enough forces to face big threats on and over the horizon. But I never knew the extent that some Canadians involved in the military had become moon-baying nut-cases until I read this. Money quote:

A former Canadian Minister of Defence and Deputy Prime Minister...Paul Hellyer, publicly stated [in September]: "UFOs, are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head."
Hellyer warned, "The United States military are preparing weapons which could be used against the aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning. He stated, "The Bush administration has finally agreed to let the military build a forward base on the moon, which will put them in a better position to keep track of the goings and comings of the visitors from space, and to shoot at them, if they so decide."

We haven't been to the moon since the early 70s. This is crackpot stuff, but here's the kicker:

Hellyer’s speech ended with a standing ovation.

A standing ovation? So likely the rest of Canada is as crazy as Hellyer. This is so silly and sad, that you just have to laugh.

Hellyer was part of the very liberal administrations in the 60s and 70s. If the conservative party doesn't kick butt in the next elections, there is little hope for our neighbor to the north.

Comments:
Knowing your respect for soldiers who have fought in battle with honour, I can`t believe that you would surely belittle the Canadian Armed Forces.
Canada fought bravely in both World Wars with honour, and suffered many casualties.
There have been a seies of documentaries here recently about WW1, with some sickening tales of battle.
One Canadian Highland regiment at Ypres was 1,000 men as they went there, but due to a gas attack by the Germans, only 300 men lived.
The story of the Crucified Canadian soldier has, due to further research, finally been verified as an event which genuinely happened.
His name was Band, and had emigrated from Scotland to Canada. His pay and letters were sent home to Dundee.
He was crucifed with Bayonet blades through his hands and feet, and one through his body, most probably while still alive,to a barn door.
He had been crucifed for trying to protect the old woman from the farm from the Germans.

You said...
"Clearly the Canadians have hitched a free ride on the sacrifice of the American people to have barely enough forces to face big threats on and over the horizon."


The Canadian Armed Forces have fought alongside the rest of their allies, and shown great bravery and honour.
It is wrong to bring their bravery and honour into question simply to make a political point on a blog site.

Here, in the UK,like other countries around the world, we have great repect for Canada.
Although both countries had similar beginnings in that their population came from a mix of European nationalities, both the US and Canada have grown in different directions and outlooks on the world.
The two countries are very different in personality, and in humour.
Canada has the size of armed forces it requires. It has few enemies.
As a country,it has a well-measured, confident, and sensible approach to world affairs.
You only need large armies if you are of the mind set of rushing headlong into armed conflicts around the world.

The Canadians aren`t hiching a ride on anyones sacrifices. They have made enough of their own sacrifices in the past. IF and WHEN an enemy comes calling on Canada, they will deal with it as they always have.
But, until then, I personally don`t see them sitting up all night getting paranoid about it.

As for the speech...well, Canadians have a really good sense of humour, and one not understood by most Americans.
I laughed when I read the speech.
It said to me ..the US is so full of paranoia about unseen enemies over its borders, who will it fight next?
Aliens of course!
And by the way, the Canadians are well aware that Americans do not understand their humour.

I think it is what we call a "piss-take".
 
Canada has 50,000 men and woman (mainly men) in their armed forces and for a nation of 32 million, spread out all over the top of the world, that's way too small. I'm not disparaging Canadian armed forces fighting spirit and sacrifice in the past World Wars, just lately. Most of the west has too small armed forces for the coming problems and most have relied on us to do the heavy lifting (all the lifting) against the USSR (which was an enemy of all of us) and now against militant Islamicist.
Few things in WWI weren't a tragedy.
Now to the point. Are you saying that the speech was not serious but a form of comedy? No one has suggested this over here. Do you have some evidence of that? Thanks for the very thoughtful (and long)comment.
 
The Canadian military has had over twice the combat fatalities, per ca pita through the wars than the US

 
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